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Luigi Charles

Luigi Charles

Co-Founder & CTO at Darwin Robotics

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Thesis

Thesis

Co-founder

Pivoted in October 2026

Now building

Darwin Robotics

Darwin Robotics

Co-Founder & CTO

Robots that assemble and maintain the machines civilization runs on.

A Y Combinator F25 company building robots that assemble and maintain the machines civilization runs on, starting with AI infrastructure.

AI hardware and data centers.

They learn physical tasks from demonstrations. Darwin is taking a deployment-first approach, using failures observed in real workflows to guide targeted data collection and post-training.

Embodied artificial general intelligence: intelligent robots performing useful physical work alongside humans and expanding what humanity is capable of.

Darwin Robotics is building robots that assemble and maintain the machines civilization runs on, starting with AI infrastructure. Its robots learn complex physical tasks from demonstrations, with initial applications in AI hardware assembly and data-center operations.

Luigi co-founded Sphere, building its payments infrastructure from the ground up and scaling it to billions of dollars in cross-border transaction volume. His background spans infrastructure and production engineering. He grew up in the Caribbean and studied mathematics and computer science at Columbia.

Darwin (YC F25) is taking a deployment-first approach: putting robots into real workflows, identifying where they fail, and using targeted data collection and post-training to improve their capabilities. The aim is to build robots that learn new tasks quickly and perform useful work reliably across changing hardware and environments. The long-term goal is embodied artificial general intelligence.

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Thesis is building a system that runs its own machine learning experiments and uses the outcome of each one to choose the next, aimed first at researchers in areas like medical imaging, climate, materials and robotics, and in the long run at every domain of science.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025[2]Deeptech DecodedSergio Charles on experiment throughput and choosing the next experiment (20:39)Episode[3]Deeptech DecodedSergio Charles on domains from medical imaging to new materials (26:54)Episode Luigi is a second-time founder.[4]Deeptech DecodedLuigi Charles on his second startup after a stablecoin payments company (01:15)Episode Previously, he co-founded Sphere, a cross-border payments company built on stablecoins that processes billions of dollars a year and was valued at more than $250M in its Series A.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025[4]Deeptech DecodedLuigi Charles on his second startup after a stablecoin payments company (01:15)Episode[5]FortuneCross-border crypto payments company Sphere raises $5 million in funding round led by Coinbase and KrakenPress, Dec 11, 2024 He has a background in infrastructure and production engineering. He studied mathematics and computer science at Columbia. Thesis (YC F25) is state of the art on OpenAI's MLE-Bench, reached in one month on $10k of compute, ahead of research teams at Microsoft, Google, Meta and Baidu.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025

Co-founders

Sergio Charles

Sergio Charles

Co-Founder & CEO

Episodes

  • How Two Brothers Outperformed Big Tech for $10K in 1 Month | (Thesis – YC F25)

    Apr 30, 20261h 18m
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Luigi Charles is a co-founder of Thesis, an applied AI lab accelerating the frontier of AI discovery.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025[4]Deeptech DecodedLuigi Charles on his second startup after a stablecoin payments company (01:15)Episode He previously built Sphere, a cross-border payments company that processes billions of dollars a year and was valued at more than $250M in its Series A.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025

A Y Combinator F25 company building a system that uses the outcome of each machine learning experiment to optimize the next.[2]Deeptech DecodedSergio Charles on experiment throughput and choosing the next experiment (20:39)Episode[6]Deeptech DecodedSergio Charles on scoring experiments before training them (44:31)Episode

It is state of the art on OpenAI's MLE-Bench, the benchmark for how well AI systems train machine learning models autonomously.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025[7]Deeptech DecodedLuigi Charles on MLE-Bench and Kaggle competitions (34:09)Episode Thesis reached that in one month with $10k of compute, ahead of research teams at Microsoft, Google, Meta and Baidu.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025

He co-founded Sphere, a cross-border payments company built on stablecoins that processes billions of dollars a year.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025[4]Deeptech DecodedLuigi Charles on his second startup after a stablecoin payments company (01:15)Episode[5]FortuneCross-border crypto payments company Sphere raises $5 million in funding round led by Coinbase and KrakenPress, Dec 11, 2024

At researchers in fields such as medical imaging, climate, materials and robotics, and in the long run at every domain of science, from computational biology to mathematics and physics.[3]Deeptech DecodedSergio Charles on domains from medical imaging to new materials (26:54)Episode[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025 The stated ambition is a machine that discovers the next Transformer or the next AlphaFold rather than a tool that assists with one experiment at a time.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025

His brother Sergio Charles, Thesis co-founder and CEO, who worked on AI R&D at Google X, Nvidia and Stanford's AI Lab.[1]Launch YCThesis: Building the frontier of AI discoveryYC, Nov 11, 2025[8]Deeptech DecodedSergio Charles on his AI research at Stanford, Nvidia and Google X (00:40)Episode

In this episode

  • 2:31Growing up on Caribbean islands with math as the constant
  • 34:09What MLE-Bench measures and why benchmarks matter
  • 49:26A shared tree of knowledge for all of machine learning
  • 52:13The agent that called itself a ghost in a shell

References

Company and YC

  1. Launch YC, Thesis: Building the frontier of AI discovery (Nov 11, 2025)Accessed Oct 23, 2026↩abcdefghijk

Press

  1. Fortune, Cross-border crypto payments company Sphere raises $5 million in funding round led by Coinbase and Kraken (Dec 11, 2024)Accessed Oct 23, 2026↩ab

Episode

  1. Sergio Charles on experiment throughput and choosing the next experiment (20:39)↩ab
  2. Sergio Charles on domains from medical imaging to new materials (26:54)↩ab
  3. Luigi Charles on his second startup after a stablecoin payments company (01:15)↩abcd
  4. Sergio Charles on scoring experiments before training them (44:31)↩
  5. Luigi Charles on MLE-Bench and Kaggle competitions (34:09)↩
  6. Sergio Charles on his AI research at Stanford, Nvidia and Google X (00:40)↩

Last updated Oct 23, 2026

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    Growing up on Caribbean islands with math as the constant

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    What MLE-Bench measures and why benchmarks matter

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    A shared tree of knowledge for all of machine learning

  • 52:13

    The agent that called itself a ghost in a shell

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