How car batteries absorb GPU training spikes without the utility

From Off-Grid AI Data Centers Powered By Second-Life Tesla Batteries. Built in 200 Days. on Deeptech Decoded, with Casey Spencer.

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Casey Spencer
Casey Spencer· Voxel Energy

Mm-hmm. So I can cite a bunch of statistics. Tesla battery packs are the most reliable and we use them, ergo we inherit the reliability. Even when Tesla was testing their own battery packs, you have to run a fire safety analysis which requires setting a battery pack on fire. Tesla could not set their own packs on fire. They had to drill into the battery and then hold a torch in the battery to get it to ignite such that it would go into thermal runaway that actually overtakes the fire resistant potting between cells. So from a very direct perspective, we inherit that safety. From a certifications perspective, it is a little bit different in that car batteries are certified in different ways than stationary batteries. And so we're going through that certification process of our own accord with our battery design. That's happening now, in fact. So we'll get those certifications so they'll meet the same standards as anyone else does. So then it comes down to a matter of perception. And that's fair. We do call them, they are technically repurposed batteries. But the way we purchase them is we have our own tools to inspect one, that's in good physical condition, and two, we can leverage the batteries own self-analysis tools to tell us what its state of health is. So if it's at a good state of health, then we want it, we buy it. If it's not, we don't. It's as simple as that. So we're already getting certifications. There's already a factor above that of Tesla certifications on the batteries. And we have our own tools for ascertaining state of health and current condition. So these are the best batteries in the world, both in terms of packaging, weather tolerance, thermal management, chemistry, rigidity, performance. And from a data center operations perspective, there's such a thing as like these massive spikes.

Nihal Kurth
Nihal Kurth

Mm-hmm.

Casey Spencer
Casey Spencer· Voxel Energy

an energy drain. If I'm working at a more traditional data center that's connected to the grid and I anticipate there's about to be a massive training spike, I literally have to call the utility and say, we're about to hit a massive load. I need you guys to give us as much power as you can, almost like we're in the Titanic and you're calling down to the engine room. We need more power.

Nihal Kurth
Nihal Kurth

Mm-hmm. I'm like...

Casey Spencer
Casey Spencer· Voxel Energy

And if they, yeah, and if they don't respond in time, maybe the whole thing shuts off. Maybe you brown out the local municipality. Whereas because the whole thing, the power goes, the power is routed through the battery in all cases. And so we are the way we architect it. It's like N to the multi thousandth power redundant, depending on the size of the data center and the battery inherently. can handle that massive drain. Because these are literally car batteries. They're meant to withstand massive acceleration in an instant. So they have something like a 10-C discharge rate. They can discharge at 10 times the rated capacity. So if there's a massive spike, there doesn't need to be any kind of manual intervention or control. The batteries just accommodate for that energy demand, just inherent to the chemistry.

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